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ace_o_spades
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Hey guys
This is just an ACR Routine I have recently come up with. I messed up a bit because I wanted to add some more "convincers" to some of the moves but anyways this is basically it in a nutshell.
Tell me what ya think!
http://media.putfile.com/ACRii
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| Thu Feb 09, 2006 1:37 pm |
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Occamsrazor
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Hey, very good, I like how it wasn't just doubles all the time, and I liked how it was different with the variations and not to predictable. The only flaw I would say is watch your first pass in the beginning, but all the other ones, like the riffles were great.
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| Thu Feb 09, 2006 2:06 pm |
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Maverick
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it looks like your very comfortable with the cards, everything was smooth pretty good job
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| Thu Feb 09, 2006 2:10 pm |
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Midget Drummer
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Very nice, that is a good solid routine, your doubles look really good. Also, if you have a strong patter line to go with the moves then that would be the icing on the cake  .
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| Thu Feb 09, 2006 2:20 pm |
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enigma
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Very nice, I love how you made it a varied routine, it wasn't just the same old stuff with slight changes. Doubles, passes, etc. Also like how you incorporated the card spin into the ambitious card routine, making it seem like the change made the card spin. 
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Seano
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absolutley amazing man. your doubles are awesome. keep up the good work
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| Thu Feb 09, 2006 4:21 pm |
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marpenothi
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That was very nicely done...music fit well with it as well. As for practicality, not too many spectators are going to want to watch an ambitious card routine that long, but it made for a great video. You included lots of moves and I enjoyed it a lot...good job with the passes.
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| Thu Feb 09, 2006 4:23 pm |
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ace_o_spades
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Thanks so far everyone. 
Of course I wouldn't incorporate this many moves into a live performance, and I would add some effects involving the actual spectators as well (patter included of course). So I just used what I could for a video shoot.
Anyhow, I'm still working on those push-off dl's but I'm glad to hear that they're coming along! Pretty simple once you get the hang of it.
Thanks for the comments and critism is always welcome
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poker123454321
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Good! I saw your dog in the background lol
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| Thu Feb 09, 2006 4:54 pm |
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chip magnet
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That was really good, well done.
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imarockstar
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Where is the clapping smile face when you need it. Great i loved it keep me on the edge of my seat. Would be more happy if i dindt know how everything was done.
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| Thu Feb 09, 2006 10:33 pm |
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Midget Drummer
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Anyhow, I'm still working on those push-off dl's but I'm glad to hear that they're coming along! Pretty simple once you get the hang of it.
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Your push off doubles looked very good and solid, there's only one clear slip up i've noticed in the video.
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| Fri Feb 10, 2006 12:43 am |
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Really nice ambitious card routine Keep up the good work...
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| Fri Feb 10, 2006 4:51 am |
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Aos
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loved everything except the stupid song for fat people.
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| Fri Feb 10, 2006 5:28 am |
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ace_o_spades
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Thanks Guys.
Aos I don't know how this song is directed towards fat people?
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| Fri Feb 10, 2006 7:02 pm |
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Aos
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becasue it says "you are beautiful like 40 times" Im sure thats exactly how those self confidence tapes for fat people sound like. wtf.. who wants to listen to taht. fat and/or ugly people. what a shitty song.
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barnzee
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Very nice, that is a good solid routine, your doubles look really good. Also, if you have a strong patter line to go with the moves then that would be the icing on the cake . |
I think acr is better without any patter; flawless mechanics and good execution of the moves makes the routine visualy stunning, and using a cheesy patter script takes away from this in my opinion.
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I agree that some patter lines can be cheesy and pointless, but just showing a trick without any speech or 'story' would cause the spectator to get bored. Even if it was just minor patter it would still enhance the trick.
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| Sat Feb 11, 2006 12:40 pm |
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aesops fable
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very nice video!!
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I agree that some patter lines can be cheesy and pointless, but just showing a trick without any speech or 'story' would cause the spectator to get bored. Even if it was just minor patter it would still enhance the trick. |
For most effects I believe this is the case. However, for the acr the effect should be so visual that the spetator only has to see what is going on to be awestruck.
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ace_o_spades
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IMO it all depends on your presentation, style, scenerio, audience, etc. However I think it's always better to add patter to a live performance. That way the spectator(s) can feel more involved during the trick and it becomes easier for them to understand what's happening
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Drey
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To start off with, good job, well executed and I liked a lot of the things I hadn't seen used before, but on to those in a moment.
From the beginning, I thought the first pass was excellent, you handled your angles well, covered the typical flash etc. There was slight visible hand movement, but nothing a layman would have caught or been suspicious of.
The push-off doubles are generally well done and you performed singles in like manner, which is always nice to see. There was I believe one part where you kind of fumbled it, but other than that they were good and undetectable.
The wrist kill action was good and I liked your general handling finesse, it seemed clean and graceful.
I'm not quite sure what I think about the manner in which you performed the James Ellis Loading move, it seemed a bit redundent to jog the card, show it, then jog it more and show it again. You might argue that flashing the top the first time was a convincer, but the convincer is only really necessary for magicians and they all know what's going on anyway so...you might want to consider that point. As a personal aside, I tend to consider the move to be somewhat contrived the way it is typically handled simply because you cut the deck into the center, then remove it and place it in the center a second time, so the question arises, why not just keep it in the center? You executed it well though.
I liked the use of the card spin to apparently effect the change, that was a nice artistic touch, and I like the way you execute your card spins in general, letting the spin gradually die off rather than suddenly stopping it, in my mind it seems more attractive and graceful that way. (You looked like you went for a strike double and then rethought it there, a minor slip up, but something to consider).
I loved the Bertram change, it's a fantastic move to begin with and you executed it well, very magical. Again, the pass was good, there was a slight bit of flash, but again, only something to concern those who know what to look for, you handled the angles pretty well.
I loved the fan wave change, to me it seemed very magical, and it was different from what I'm used to seeing, again, it was well executed.
Your Erdnase change was decent, though I thought a little lacking in artistry given some of the previous work and I wasn't terribly pleased with the forward motion. Again, the pass was well handled.
The face up pass was quite well done as well, though you flashed the angle slightly that time removing the top packet and your break was visible at the back of the hand prior to performing the move, so you could work on that.
You did a good job of effecting the retention of vision on the visual retention top change or whatever you want to call it, though I thought the shifting angles was a bit contrived, so you might want to see about lessening that, perhaps just turn your wrist inward instead of turning your whole body.
So overall, very well done, some of the best work I've seen on these boards I think.
Now as a routine, it was quite poor, so you definately need to work on that side of things. I'll give you an example, the Bertram change and fan wave change were more magical and seemingly more impossible than the Erdnase change. The routine was too long (this was discussed by some other posters), but it was also anti-climatic. It boiled down to being a nice demonstration of moves, but not as a routine where reactions and performance are an issue. You definately seemed to have it well planned and know where you were going, which was good, but at the same time I'm not sure it really seemed as though the one definately flowed into the other, though you handled the transitions fairly well. In the future I'd also suggest keeping the number of passes down and not starting with a pass. Another thing to consider would be consistency in the action, you tend to go through common motions when performing a pass that aren't repeated elsewhere. Some of the riffling when nothing happens also seems a bit odd so that's something more to think about.
Thanks very much for sharing, I look forward to seeing more.
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ace_o_spades
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Thanks Drey. Your posts always seem to contain an unvaluable amount of valuable information (if that makes sense  ).
I'll definitely take into consideration all that you mentioned!
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| Sat Feb 18, 2006 11:47 am |
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DanTheMan3
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Pretty darn good! Nice work!
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