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spartaprague
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Hi Everyone,
This is my first post of many I hope, so please be nice to me 
To begin my 1st post I was wondering on peoples opinion about cards, what is the best card make?
Many Thanks
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Chipmaster
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I don't know the links but I am sure if you do a search there is probably a thread or 2 about this.
Anyway, most people use Bicycle brand made by the Cincinnatti Playing Card Company or Bee made by them as well.
Many people say Tally Ho are the best but I have never tried them.
I assume you are talking about cards for flourishes and magic??...
If you want cards for a poker game although I still like the ones mentioned above you can get kem cards that will last about 50 times longer.
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I agree with Chipmaster. I have some Tally-Hos and they are really good.
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| Wed Apr 06, 2005 7:29 am |
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Eric
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Hi Everyone,
This is my first post of many I hope, so please be nice to me
To begin my 1st post I was wondering on peoples opinion about cards, what is the best card make?
Many Thanks |
spartaprague, Welcome to the forum!
It depends on what you want to use the cards for. kems are could for poker but not flourishes.
Check out these reviews:
Bee
kem
We'd like to add Bikes and Tally Hos to this section too. 
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spartaprague
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Thank you all, your replies have given a lot of help
Nice of you to make me fell welcome, 
Regards,
SpartaPrague
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| Thu Apr 07, 2005 5:00 pm |
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bigperm
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I also prefer the Tally Ho Fan Backs. In my opinion they have a very sharp look to them and the ace of spades is sweet looking. They also handle well espicially for fans and multi packet cut displays! Bikes are the easiest to find anywhere and are also great for tricks, they are cheaper and almost disposible once they are worn out.
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Tom Ace
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I disagree that Bee's are a good choice for poker card tricks. Ofcourse they can be used for tricks, just like any other brand.
If you want to learn poker card tricks I suggest you use Bicycle cards. Bee have an overal back design, and you certainly don't want that when you are performing card tricks. Double lift for example.
If you're looking for cards that are suited for gambling demonstrations, false dealing, stacking, shuffling than Bee's are your choice.
I don't like to be sticked with one brand. I use them all, and I use them for different situations as I explained above.
One brand I'm not very fond of is Tally-Ho. They have a different finish. They feel more "plastic" to me. But, different people, different cards 
Aviator is another brand. Also nice casual back design. Also white bordered. Nice cards, not as good as Bycicle though.
Aristocrats are also a nice variation. Different finish. Still not as good as Bycicle.
kem cards are indeed allot more durable than paper cards but I prefer paper cards. The feeling, I think, is much better. Plus if you watch the big games (movies etc) they also use paper cards So maybe that is a reason for you to stick with paper cards
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expertmagician
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I somewhat agree with Tom Ace....
I personally think Bicycles are the best for 2 reasons:
- White borders for magic
- they feel good and are great for sleights
On the other card Bees are also great for gambling moves and the back design (all around/even pattern) hides a great many of sleights, but has the downside of being hard on a spectators eyes (so they are not great for magic).
Bees and Bicycles must be marked in different ways if you want marked cards.
BOTTOM LINE: I personally feel that Bees and Bicycles are best because they are VERY common and easy to get at the local drug store. I only want to use cards that people are used to seeing. So, odd back designs like Aristocrat, and even Bicycle Fan Back raise suspecion as being a trick deck.
Note: In some locations Tally-Hos are also common, so feel free to use them too....
That's my opinion for what it is worth.
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I agree with people in saying that Tallys are the best for card tricks, flourishes, and manipulation. When it comes to magic, I used Bicycle decks because they are the most widely known and accepted. When you show a spectator bikes, they automatically think ok no gaffs, no setups, nothing funky about this deck.
Tallys are something fun to look at and make the art form of manipulation and flourishes more visually appealing.
Thats my take on it,
Marp
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It is indeed true that in the States people (laymen) are used to Bicycle cards aswell. And that the aren't suspicious about the cards. When I watch American sitcoms, Friends, Will & Grace, Frasier, Everybody Loves Raymond, you always see the Bicycle brand.
Here in Holland people use "no brand" cards Mostly these are bridge sized cards. Sometimes the name of a company (from work) is at the back of the cards. More often than not these are also "one-way backs"
It is said that Dutch people are cheap, well, if you look at their playing cards I guess this is true. I honestly don't know any laymen who actually bought playing cards. The cards are always for free.
You can imagine that they are suspicious about Bicycle. So in their eyes a cheap bridge sized company deck is regular.
Ofcourse you can perform some nice tricks with these decks. But mostly these decks are so extremely old. The cards are from a company that doesn't excst anymore etc.
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IMO studs are the best cards on the market currently. The have an incredible finish and are on excellent stock. The back design is quiote different, unappealing in my opinion. WPT back designs, aswell as Tally ho fan backs are my favorite.
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Yo Tom,
Who ya calling cheap
Nahh I agree, here in dutchieland it is common to have no-brand cards. Altough i have some Mondiano and Tally's lying right next to me
Sreen 
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Greetings. Truly, there are no better cards than Dal Negro from Italy. Unlike Copag, which has dull images because of the dye in their PVC, Dal Negro art is crisp and bright. In addition, the cards have texture, which prevents them from being slippery, which virtually eliminates sliding, toppling when left on the felt and sliding down while being held. Shuffling these cards is also an incredible adventure. Again, because of the texture, there's no need to press the center of deck to expel trapped air that causes cards to slide. Trust me, you will receive more compliments using these cards than any other. The downside is that they are expensive. But, they are the very best and, in my opinion, are worth every penny. Enjoy.
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WTF! you posted the same thing in another ancient post, CHECK THE AGE OF POSTS!! wheres a moderator when you need one puffssst... 
p.s: dude do you work for dal negro or something, you'd make a good salesmen.
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omg conspiracy.
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lol, indeed a conspiracy is afoot.
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Greetings. Truly, there are no better cards than Dal Negro from Italy. Unlike Copag, which has dull images because of the dye in their PVC, Dal Negro art is crisp and bright. In addition, the cards have texture, which prevents them from being slippery, which virtually eliminates sliding, toppling when left on the felt and sliding down while being held. Shuffling these cards is also an incredible adventure. Again, because of the texture, there's no need to press the center of deck to expel trapped air that causes cards to slide. Trust me, you will receive more compliments using these cards than any other. The downside is that they are expensive. But, they are the very best and, in my opinion, are worth every penny. Enjoy. |
I'm going to Rome for spring break...I'll have to pick up a deck
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A bit off topic are we? (Italy kicks ass...went last summer to Rome, Flourence, Pisa, Venice, Capri, you name it...but I digress... )
I agree with Marp...I like the Tallys because the fan-backs (and even circle backs) add a bit of showmanship in themselves to flourishing. Watching a vid with a deck of bikes is ok, but seeing some badass tricks done with a good deck of Tallys is just god-awesome . However, in contradiction to my own high-regard of Tallys, I find myself most often utilizing Bikes or Bees. I must say that Bikes most definitely are the card of choice for tricks, but Bees do feel good to fan with. That's pretty much all I use them for. With Bees, because of the full-back designs, Double Lifts are hard, Triple Lifts are un-heard of, and tricks like Shapeshifter and 2-Card Montey are out the door. Bikes definitely "take the cake" for card magic, mostly due to the white borders they so inconspicuously possess...you'd be surprised how much a little white border can make a difference. (Just for the record, I absolutely LOVE my Tally-Ho Vipers...much more than any bikes I've picked up. I want to buy another deck of them...)
I have actually played with a deck of Dal Negros when I was in Italy. I didn't like them specifically because of the texture...I like to feel as though I have a bit of freedom with the cards. The DNs felt stuck together and clammy. Not my personal preference when it comes to cards. I'm new to the whole scheme of things, but hand me a deck of bikes and I'm happy. Bees even, and Tallys especially. [/i]
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