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Bottom Deal Help!      Chip Tricks, Card Tricks, Pool Trick Shots, Penspinning Forum Index » Card Tricks - Magic and Flourishes View previous topic View next topic Bottom Deal Help! Author Message Cavialord Joined: 16 Apr 2007 Posts: 1 Bottom Deal Help! Hello people! I'm new here to the forum, and i have a very difficult question: If i'm dealing from the bottom of the deck, how do i get my good cards on the bottom without getting noticed? I've tried many things but anytime its obvious that im cheating... Is there an other way that one of you can tell me? Please help me, i'd aprecciate it. Greets, Cavialord Mon Apr 16, 2007 12:25 pm Shadow Forum Administrator Joined: 19 Dec 2003 Posts: 1571 The thing you're probably searching for is called stacking. It takes a lot time to learn it well. If you really want to start learning it then you should check this topic: http://www.21ace.com/phpBB2/viewtopic.php?t=5482 Mon Apr 16, 2007 12:44 pm Drey Straight Flush Joined: 06 Feb 2005 Posts: 696 The concept of culling is actually what you're looking for, the same thread will help you, otherwise if you do a search on this forum for the subject you'll get a number of results. After you've looked through those if you still have any questions let me know. Mon Apr 16, 2007 7:09 pm tmacandcheese Straight Flush Joined: 15 Dec 2006 Posts: 286 or you can try a second bottom deal, got this off of magichat.co.uk what you do is basically try a simple false shuffle and keep all of your cards at the bottem, with one card under it that you wont use... hold the deck sideways and slide the bottem card back slightly so people cant see cause the decks face down, then you just take off the second card with the room you just made... you can do this over and over again if you want to make it look like you have bad cards cuase of the bad card at the bottem... also i dont reccomend this in a game of poker XD u can if you want but im not the type to cheat XD unless its video games granted Wed Apr 18, 2007 6:56 pm expertmagician Straight Flush Joined: 26 Jul 2004 Posts: 446 You can get the cards to the bottom several ways...as stated above...this is called "culling". You can cull the desired cards from the cards which were laying on the table (ie. discarded cards) This is the easiest, most common and you are the most likely to get caught. You can cull, by peeking cards during the shuffling proceedure. You can position and cull, by holding out cards and simply adding them onto the bottom of the deck at the appropriate time. Finally, you can cull cards by using a marked deck. Instead of stacking marked cards, as I did in my video, you may even find it easier to shuffle the cards to the bottom for your bottom deal. When you use a marked deck, you do not have to peak any cards, which is why the cull is much more deceptive. In addition, as you probably know, marked cards may be used in many other ways and have their own unique advantages. Enjoy ! _________________ Culling & stacking video clips: http://www.21ace.com/Marked-Cards-Video.php http://www.21ace.com/Marked-Cards-Holdem-Video.php For video luminous demos try: http://www.21ace.com/video-pictures/displayimage.php?pos=-121 http://www.21ace.com/video-pictures/displayimage.php?pos=-122 Sun Apr 22, 2007 8:43 pm J.D.Dyson 2 Pairs Joined: 07 May 2008 Posts: 12 Location: Johannesburg My riffle cull idea My riffle cull idea I think might help you. here are the basics of it.(manuscript) These techniques I have created and are mine if used credit must be given to me. These are my own techniques. Dyson Cull or Crimp Cull Ok you should know how to stack cards but how do you find cards to stack. Well I’ve got thing for you and the best part is it’s a riffle shuffle done on the table. Method S1: Cut the top pile over to the left S2: As you run cards off you will start to realise you can glimpse the index as they go past you. when you found the card you want don’t riffle it off keep it there and with your thumb push it down and towards the fingers opposite your thumb bend it up and give it a doggy ears crimp. S3: Continue you to riffle of cards at the same time with opposite packet this should allow you to bid your time S4: When you have a crimp, finish your shuffle which will bury it in the deck S4: But aha we have a crimp lift up on it and cut over the packet leaving the crimp on one of the two packets. (When you cut over the packet place it next to the other for another riffle.) S5: Control it to the top well crimping the next card you want with the same process. Since this is my work I dont think this counts as Exsposure _________________ HHHHHHHAAAAAAAAAAANNNNNNNNNGGGGGGGGGEEEEEEEERRRRRRRRRRSSSSSSSSS totally suck Wed May 07, 2008 9:57 am expertmagician Straight Flush Joined: 26 Jul 2004 Posts: 446 If you check my video clips (links below) using marked cards, you can see how I culled cards and stacke at the same time.....But, once you see a card you want, you can just as easily shuffle it to the bottom of the deck or bring it to the bottom by using a double under cut and a break. The main advantage is that I don't have to peak the faces of the cards and people are watching carefully during the "pick-up" of discards. I personally like stacking vs. bottom dealing because the dirty work is done early and the deal is fair. But, that is just my personal opinion and what I have done through the years. I know others who love bottoms. Bottoms have another advantage because you can hold out during the cut and then add onto the bottom of the deck easily before the deal. _________________ Culling & stacking video clips: http://www.21ace.com/Marked-Cards-Video.php http://www.21ace.com/Marked-Cards-Holdem-Video.php For video luminous demos try: http://www.21ace.com/video-pictures/displayimage.php?pos=-121 http://www.21ace.com/video-pictures/displayimage.php?pos=-122 Thu May 08, 2008 5:56 am Display posts from previous:  All Posts1 Day7 Days2 Weeks1 Month3 Months6 Months1 Year  Oldest FirstNewest First     Chip Tricks, Card Tricks, Pool Trick Shots, Penspinning Forum Index » Card Tricks - Magic and Flourishes All times are GMT - 7 Hours Page 1 of 1   Jump to:  Select a forum Tricks And Flourishes----------------Poker Chip Tricks plus Coin TricksCard Tricks - Magic and FlourishesPen Spinning ericyow.com Pool Forums----------------ericyow.com plus forum newsAsk Yow!Your Pool Videos and Other VideosGeneral chit chatShot Diagrams Poker Supplies----------------All Your Poker Supplies Poker, Games and Casinos----------------Poker and Gaming General----------------21ace Information and Suggestions21ace Lounge You cannot post new topics in this forum You cannot reply to topics in this forum You cannot edit your posts in this forum You cannot delete your posts in this forum You cannot vote in polls in this forum Powered by phpBB © 2001, 2005 phpBB Group Design by Freestyle XL / Flowers Online.

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