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Johnny Hughes
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http://www.winholdem.net/forum/viewtopic.php?t=426&sid=69fd72228a6a5ba8a6941e96272bb01b
Here is a site where cheaters discuss how to cheat on the internet.
They discuss the best way to play partners. They discuss their widely used cheating software. Most frightening is that they discuss the weak approach that Party Poker takes when they catch cheating. It does nothing! there is a weak gibberish laden letter from Party Poker available on this site.
Online players! Rise up. Raise hell.
In my view, if you play ring games online, you are either cheating or being cheated.
I wrote an article on cheating available on www.pokerpages.com and www.thepokerforum.com but it applies to ring games.
What about www.winholdem.net ?
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CLM
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Scary stuff. I remember seeing a site about online collusion...this guy had like 30 computers set up in one room and played 9 seats of a SnG at once...you're almost guaranteed to win it that way.
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Level_Five
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we've all thought of it... 
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TheSuicideKing
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I tried clicking on that web link and nothing came up....let me know when u have the correct address. Also have you ever heard about the trojian horse virus for online poker-anybody? Let me know-Suicide King
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SHuffle Deluxe1
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As much as you want to think it, unless you and a few friends sit down at the same table, which hardly ever works in tourneys, it is impossiable to cheat. You by yourself can not cheat online. I dont care what a bunch of people write on some random website with no credibility (and by the way more then half the people that talk about cheating have never been able to do what they say).
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Scary stuff. I remember seeing a site about online collusion...this guy had like 30 computers set up in one room and played 9 seats of a SnG at once...you're almost guaranteed to win it that way. |
They can do that all they want, but that does not effect you. The dont make any money doing that either, b/c u win what u put into it but u lose the tourney fee.
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TheSuicideKing
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I play a lot of cash games at the casinos, just I tried the internet thing on Party Poker and it fuckin sucked. I never seen horrible cards beat me so many times and after depositing around $600 I not doing it again on that site until Im absolutly sure that Im not being cheated or something. What in your case is the best poker online to be on and why? Anyone let me know, I'm eager to play online again. Laters
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z3n_mast3r
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there may not be a guaranted way to cheat but i have done the math,
if you get 7or 8 people to join a Poker Table you GREATLY increase your odds of winning....tournament play no, but table play yes....all you do is communicate hands through msn or irc or whatever so that way you know all the cards out of the deck so dont say cheating is immpossible they have found poker bots already that play at a professional level.
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TheSuicideKing
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Yeah I've done that before, it works pretty good, just that you might want to make friends w/people out of state or country so no one suspects. I stopped doing that like 3 months ago after they start kicking you off becuase you always playing together-The Suicide King
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jonjo
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Hey I read so many posts on various forums about sites cheating people or people cheating site and the same names always come up. They are partypoker and poker stars. It makes me wonder why no one uses one of the other poker rooms.
I started a FHM poker which is bollox by the way don't bother. ANd then went via partypoker to Ultimate bet on the reccomendation of a friend.
I have never had any problems with ultimate bet, no cash out curse, no evidence of set up hands and from any of the posts i've read none of the pokerbots work with the site.
I just don't understand the fuss about partypoker. They set a relatively high minimum table price limit so all the idiots play for higher stakes. I think this is why people worry about set up hands. If you constatley called with rags then at some point you're going to hit some on the flop/board. Think of all the morons out there doing exactley that. Also you can't play good strategy against a shite player you can only have the cards to beat him/her.
Stop whinging and give another site a try. I can fully recommend ultimate bet to anyone and if anyone has had any problems with them i'd be interested to hear.
Rant over
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personally i think Ultimate Bet looks like an NES game, and the whole
play just is crap, ive been playing at Doyles Room ( great software, although i was able to tinker with it ) , hollywood poker (great bonuses and lots of fish), and yes party poker is crap, its made for retards who want to lose their bankrool. there is tons of software and bots that work with that site, so why use it, its obviously not even remotely secure, i was able to mess with the software within seconds, its horribly designed and looks like a childrens game.
why dont people work harder on good software?? i dont get it ....
say what you want about pokerstars but their software is great.... just needs to be a little more secure...
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What the fu*k is this? Are you trying to tell people how to cheat or trying to warn them about the stupidity of poker player’s actually thinking this shit works and they will get away with it?
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Many of these ways to cheat will get detected by the game's software anyway, and they'll kick you off and take your deposit, so I wouldn't bother.
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This thread is hilarious.
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http://www.winholdem.net/forum/viewtopic.php?t=426&sid=69fd72228a6a5ba8a6941e96272bb01b
Here is a site where cheaters discuss how to cheat on the internet.
They discuss the best way to play partners. They discuss their widely used cheating software. Most frightening is that they discuss the weak approach that Party Poker takes when they catch cheating. It does nothing! there is a weak gibberish laden letter from Party Poker available on this site. |
Widely used cheating software? Hrm...I wonder why everyone I know DOESNT use it. Maybe 'cuz its useless. Maybe 'cuz bots will never be winners at higher stakes. Maybe 'cuz they don't want there accounts closed and cash taken.
I went to that forum and found several posts about guys who had there accounts closed and money taken. The only reason they wouldn't do anything is if you're playing for chump change, which probably 3/4 of those morons on that forum do. Poker rooms make money off players, and they want you to be there loyal customer.
Party software is able to take screenshots of your computer. They are ALWAYS working to catch cheating.
They have almost thought about getting rid of poker tracker software, which isnt even a cheating tool. They do nothing, right?
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In my view, if you play ring games online, you are either cheating or being cheated. |
I guess the guys that play 5/10 and 10/20 NL make their living off poker while at the same time being cheated? You fuckin moron.
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there may not be a guaranted way to cheat but i have done the math, if you get 7or 8 people to join a Poker Table you GREATLY increase your odds of winning....tournament play no, but table play yes....all you do is communicate hands through msn or irc or whatever so that way you know all the cards out of the deck so dont say cheating is immpossible they have found poker bots already that play at a professional level. |
So....You go to a 1/2 NL table and attemp to steal from one or two players, to split a profit of probably $1000 after about 2 hours? So thats like a profit of $125? Then you have to subtract time taken, which equals money, for the hassle of actually getting together, which also means you can't do it daily. And being 'aware' that you can get cought. Also doing the transfering from account to account, while having a team of trustworthy players.
Nice job of doing the math.
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Hey I read so many posts on various forums about sites cheating people or people cheating site and the same names always come up. They are partypoker and poker stars. It makes me wonder why no one uses one of the other poker rooms. |
Party and Stars have the most players.
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I just don't understand the fuss about partypoker. They set a relatively high minimum table price limit so all the idiots play for higher stakes. I think this is why people worry about set up hands. If you constatley called with rags then at some point you're going to hit some on the flop/board. Think of all the morons out there doing exactley that. Also you can't play good strategy against a shite player you can only have the cards to beat him/her. |
Party has the most players, and therefore have the most fish. You make money off bad players.
Since "They set a relatively high minimum table price limit" you can play at that level where other players JUST started at and totally kill the game, which equals $$$$$$$.
This is why live is also very lucrative.
Stars has micro limit games, which is why in general, there are better players there.
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yes party poker is crap, its made for retards who want to lose their bankrool. there is tons of software and bots that work with that site, so why use it, its obviously not even remotely secure, i was able to mess with the software within seconds, its horribly designed and looks like a childrens game |
You are sooooo full of shit its not even funny. Beyond it. Mess with the software within seconds? AHAHAHAHAHHAHA!
I can't understand why one of the top online players in the world, Darrel Dickens, plays their. Why pro's like Layne Flack and Bill Chen put there own money into that site. DON'T DO IT GUYS, YOU'LL LOSE YOUR BANKROLL!!!!!!
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say what you want about pokerstars but their software is great.... just needs to be a little more secure... |
Poker Stars is on top with security.
Weren't you telling me to stop ACTING like I know everything?
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