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 Nexgen Bee's - Why no review in the review section? |
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I noticed that the Nexgen Bee's wern't covered in the review section of this site. Most people are reviewing the bee's under the Nexgen2.
Will these chips get their own spot for reviews?
(this close to getting a set) 
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| Thu Apr 06, 2006 1:34 am |
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DanTheMan3
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They are the exact same as the Nexgen Rivers and Las Vegas, they are the same material and manufacturer, so there is no need to write a review. It would be like writting two reviews for the same car, just with different colors and interior colors.
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| Thu Apr 06, 2006 1:30 pm |
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Eric
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They are the exact same as the Nexgen Rivers and Las Vegas, they are the same material and manufacturer, so there is no need to write a review. It would be like writting two reviews for the same car, just with different colors and interior colors. |
I agree with Dan, the Nexgen Bee chips are very similar to the Nexgen River chips. That said, the bee on the Nexgen Bee chips looks different from the hat on the Nexgen River chips so we might give them their own page(with pictures showing the Bees). If we give them a review then my ratings for them will be the same as for other Nexgen chips. The only rating that might change with them is the appearance since the Bees give the chips a slightly different look from other Nexgen chips.
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| Fri Apr 07, 2006 1:45 am |
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Stevo
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I have all the versions of the Nexgens - samples of about 20 of the RPT and a set of 500 of the originals and 1000 of the Bees. They are not the same. The originals are the best, IMO. The RPT's are different, a sort of rubbery feel. The Bees, which look the best to me, feel a little bit more slippery.
There ya go. Get samples.
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| Fri Apr 07, 2006 11:48 am |
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DanTheMan3
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I have all the versions of the Nexgens - samples of about 20 of the RPT and a set of 500 of the originals and 1000 of the Bees. They are not the same. The originals are the best, IMO. The RPT's are different, a sort of rubbery feel. The Bees, which look the best to me, feel a little bit more slippery.
There ya go. Get samples. |
Still, when you buy Nexgens, you're buying the one you like the looks of best. The reason for the different feel is because of textured pattern on the original chips. They're the same material. It's not like the difference between Paulson chips and Ceramic chips. Its a very small difference between the Nexgens. Pick the ones you like the best, just know the originals have a slightly better texture.
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| Fri Apr 07, 2006 1:18 pm |
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Such a tossup between the three.
The Original are not very exciting looking. The River's look alright, and the Bee's look very nice.
Over all i'm looking for chips that stack as solidly as possible and look nice too.
I think the original's with the textured pattern would stack best, but they're kinda boring looking.
I'm thinking of getting custom lables for them so if the Bee's were sprayed with PreserveIt would it make them more stackable?
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| Fri Apr 07, 2006 9:14 pm |
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DanTheMan3
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Such a tossup between the three.
The Original are not very exciting looking. The River's look alright, and the Bee's look very nice.
Over all i'm looking for chips that stack as solidly as possible and look nice too.
I think the original's with the textured pattern would stack best, but they're kinda boring looking.
I'm thinking of getting custom lables for them so if the Bee's were sprayed with PreserveIt would it make them more stackable? |
All three chips are slippery, so don't expect stacking as good as clay chips. The originals texture makes them slightly better, but not massively better. If you like the bee's look, go with them.
BUY SAMPLES!!!!!!!!
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| Sat Apr 08, 2006 5:20 am |
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ScruffyBamboo
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| Nextgen Rivers vs. Bees |
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Well, I just ordered a set of 500 Bees, and let me tell you that the difference between them and Nexgen Rivers is STRIKING!
On the Bees, they tried giving the outside ring a "crosshatched" texture, similar to the Paulsons (the Rivers do not have this, they are slick).
Unfortunately, the plan backfired - the Bees, out of the pack, are almost as slick as regular ABS chips! Doh! It seems the crosshatching only reduces the friction between the chips. I have a feeling that's why they're used in clay chips; they'd be TOO sticky without them (maybe I'm wrong about that - someone illuminate me).
At first, I felt burned - I ordered the Bees based upon a game I had played with the Rivers, and liked the feel a lot. I just figured that the Bees were the same thing, with different graphics (which I prefer - I don't like the stamping on the Rivers as much).
Anyway, I was very dissapointed, and I had basically resigned myself to buying another set (either the Rivers or the Pro Clay 13.5 - very nice, but not enough colors). So I decided, what the hell, since I'm getting new ones, I'll take some fine grit sandpaper to some of the Bees to see if I can get rid of some of that misguided cross-hatching.
Well lo and behold, after just a little sanding (very little), the chips now stick together as well (if not better) than the Paulsons!! The feel is now amazing!
Granted, some chips (green ones, especially) got a little... "washed out" by the process, but I actually like the look - looks like they's been used in a Casino for a few years, and feel like it too.
I can now EASILY stack 40 - 50 chips, and even move them around the table without fear of them tipping.
So, if you've bought a set of these chips, and were dissapointed like me, give it a try. I suggest you try it with a couple of blacks first (they seem to "scuff" the least) to see if you like it, but I'm sure you'll agree. In many ways, I now PREFER them to my Paulson samples. In fact, I'm ordering another 500 Bees, and will be printing some custom inlays for them.
Anyway, just thought I'd share that with you all, maybe it can help someone out there.
Scruffy
P.S. I don't see why this wouldn't work on other NexGens. I think that they just have some sort of "coating" that makes them slick - the sanding didn't affect the "cross-hatching" on my Bees at all. I have no other NexGens though, so I can't verify this.
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| Fri Apr 21, 2006 9:20 am |
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Great info.
I have samples of the Nexgen originals and the crosshatching is alot thicker than the Bees, resulting in them stacking better it appears.
I was going to order the Bees originally cuz the do look very nice, but opted for the originals based on their stackability.
They're also $20 cheaper. 
I might try the sanding method on the samples just for the heck of it, to see what happens.
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| Fri Apr 21, 2006 7:21 pm |
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ScruffyBamboo
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Well, having said all that, I think we definitely could have a seperate enrty for the Bees in the review, as they are in fact quite different from the other Nexgen sets.
Also, if you do try the sanding, be aware that you should soak your chips in warm water for a few minutes after sanding - it will get rid of most of the sanding dust that accumutates between the cross-hatching, leaving the final colour just a touch lighter than the original.
Scruffy
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| Fri Apr 21, 2006 9:23 pm |
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Eric
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It looks like we have enough info here to make a Nexgen Bee review page. I'll add this to our to-do list.
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| Fri Apr 21, 2006 10:55 pm |
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| Re: Nextgen Rivers vs. Bees |
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So I decided, what the hell, since I'm getting new ones, I'll take some fine grit sandpaper to some of the Bees to see if I can get rid of some of that misguided cross-hatching.
Well lo and behold, after just a little sanding (very little), the chips now stick together as well (if not better) than the Paulsons!! The feel is now amazing!
I can now EASILY stack 40 - 50 chips, and even move them around the table without fear of them tipping.
Scruffy
P.S. I don't see why this wouldn't work on other NexGens. I think that they just have some sort of "coating" that makes them slick - the sanding didn't affect the "cross-hatching" on my Bees at all. I have no other NexGens though, so I can't verify this. |
How fine grit did you use? 220? Thinking of trying this with the Originals.
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| Mon Jun 19, 2006 2:04 pm |
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I tried it and they stack twice as well and are slightly less clinky. 220 grit sand paper. About 4-5 swirls on a flat piece of 220 grit sandpaper on each side with a good amount of presure. Just enough to get the coating off..
Then wipe with damp cloth.
It does fade the color slightly, but it's worth it IMO. They stack so well.
I'll post some before & after pics when I get the time. Then I think I'll actually get some custom lables for these babys.
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| Mon Jun 19, 2006 2:56 pm |
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ScruffyBamboo
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Glad it worked out for you - I've now done my whole set of 1500 chips, and I have no regrets.
In fact, I brought both my custom, sanded Bees and my small Paulson Pharaoh set to a local game recently. Believe it or not, they preferred the Bees!!!
When combined with a custom vinyl label, sanded Nexgens become absolutely high-end chips. I can't say enought about them.
Anyway, I'm happy you like them too 
Scruffy
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| Wed Jun 21, 2006 4:35 pm |
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glenr
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I've done this to 500 Lucky Bee's, what an awesome tip - thanks guys!
I was so disappointed, I was going to send them back!
I've added a video onto YouTube should anyone want to take a look to see what everyone means about the Slickness compared to the other Nexgen chips.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-p6_yQKvRts
I'll be doing a review on my blog (www.pot-committed.co.uk) so I'll post that on here once it's done and give appropriate credit.
Thanks again for the tip.
Cheers,
Glen.
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