| You're entering a tournament with a $60 buyin. For a rebuy option, which would you prefer? |
| One $40, 5000 chip rebuy at any time within the 1st 4 levels regardless of your chipcount. |
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20% |
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| One $40, 5000 chip rebuy at any time within the 1st 4 levels, only when you are below 2k in chips. |
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0% |
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| Unlimited $40, 5000 chip rebuys within the 1st 4 levels, only when you are below 2k in chips. |
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0% |
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| No Rebuys, I'd prefer a freeze-out |
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80% |
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 Tournament Rebuy Question |
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Ok, hypothetical situation. You're entering a T5000 tournament with a $60 buyin. For a rebuy option, would you prefer.
Keep in mind that all of the rebuys are optional.
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pokerfanatic
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you shouldn't be able to rebuy unless you go completely broke... and if you're playing a rebuy that is originally a $50 buyin, or whatever you bettor be willing to spend a solid $250 or so on avg in the first hour trying to build a big stack... letting people rebuy with whatever chip count they want the person with the deepest wallet will have the best shot at winning... i'm not sure where you are getting the $2k in chips from if you start with $5k in chips...
so this is what i think... if you want to do rebuy's then i would probably limit it to one rebuy if you go broke in first 4 levels... or if you want to do unlimited rebuys curve down the buyin some depending on how many people are in the MTT... like lets say you have a $50 buy in FO and 50 people playing (5 full tables) that's $2.5k total pot... so if you do say a $25 rebuy with unlimited rebuys first 4 levels if you go broke then you have $1250 pot start with say 30 people rebuy 2 times (this is a guess but it illustrates my point) that's $1.5k that makes for a total prize pool of $2750 more then you FO for a cheaper buy in... the pot is not built by the first buy in it's build by rebuys in this case...
i personally would just figure out how you think you can get the largest prize pool and go with that but rebuys need to be if you bust only IMO, because if you let me i would give you X amount of buyins of the bat so i have the biggest stack compared to everyone else and play big stack MTT bully almost from the start, giving you a much higher probability to win... thus why the deepest pockets have the best shot at winning that MTT...
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i voted for no rebuys, but if i had to use rebuys "One $40, 5000 chip rebuy at any time within the 1st 4 levels, only when you are below 2k in chips." or "One $40, 5000 chip rebuy at any time within the 1st 4 levels regardless of your chipcount." sounds like the best option.
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not a fan of re-buys either. if you get busted, u should just be done. Chances are u won't re-buy and do any better.
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| Mon Jan 29, 2007 10:43 am |
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That's for the responses everyone.
You all make great points.
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i'm not sure where you are getting the $2k in chips from if you start with $5k in chips... |
A T1500 tourney I've played in allowed you to rebuy as frequently as you like if yer below 500 in chips in the first 2 levels. It's kinda emulating this method.
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if you let me i would give you X amount of buyins of the bat so i have the biggest stack compared to everyone else |
Rebuying more than once right off the bat isn't an option here. I'm thinking like the tourneys I've played in Casinos. You can rebuy only once and get twice the chips before the 1st hand is dealt or any time within the first several blind levels.
In PokerStars rebuy tourneys you can rebuy right off the bat, and many times after, but only when your below a certain amount or broke.... (I'm not sure which)
Some of the casino tourneys, only allow one rebuy, which I think is just to be able to advertise it as a, say $60 tourney, but really it's gonna cost $100 as there's one $40 rebuy. Pretty much everyone gets it right before the 1st hand is dealt. Also, since it's less than the original buyin for the same amount of chips, most people will get it because your at a huge disadvantage right away if you don't rebuy right away.
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I was responding to the option of re-buyin anytime you want... ok if i can't do it off the bat then I sure can after I play the first hand... seems kind of silly or maybe i misunderstood what you were trying to get across...
Typically you can buy 2 times before a hand is dealt... after that typically you can buy 2 more times if you bust, est... I took it as an unlimited amount of times anytime you wanted as an option...
rebuy's can really hurt the fishes wallet without them really realizing it... some people will play this things with a 1 buyin mentality which is a piss poor strategy... you have to be prepared to play $5 rebuy lets say as a $25-$50 MTT sometimes you wont need to rebuy at all but lets see $10 start up you rebuy 2 times that's $30 in a hurry, you can see how the pot can get huge fast but also put you in a hole as well...
personally i think rebuy MTTs benfit the bettor players, they have room to maneuver the first 4 levels and not worry about being bust if something goes wrong... like bad luck AA gets busted by 72o or something like that... as for the fish i think because they have a false since about how much money they are getting themselves into originally it creates a bettor prize pool for the bettor players...
i'll be stright up and honest each of your options have different strategies to beat them, if you play a rebuy like a FO you're simply dead money, same goes as re-buy MTT strategy in a FO though... your dead money there too...
If it were me and you want to run a rebuy which it seems like you do given it was 3 options out of 4 or something...
2 buy-ins at a time max, if you want to do a rebuy before they hit roc bottom then no more then 500 chips but i think bust is the correct thing to do, first 4 levels i'm guessing you plan to do 15 min levels? well if it's live i think you should bump that to 30min, it would increase total prize pool opportunity, and also make up for the fact hands get delt a lot slower live...
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It's going to be 20 minute levels. I agree that there's a huge difference in strategy between rebuy and FO.
I just wanted to see what was most popular. I've decided to have a $60 freeze-out as rebuys don't work well in a T10,000 if you don't want it to last a very long time. Also the crowd I'm trying to attract are the people who play the local Monday $25 freeze-out and the Wednesday $25 rebuy tourney. It's the best of both worlds I've decided.
Thanks for the input.
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